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Don’t Be Fooled, That Debate Was a Big Deal
“Well, I’m a little confused here, because I don’t see how you can grow the deficit down by raising people’s taxes. You see, I don’t think the American people are taxed too little. I think they’re taxed too much. I went for one tax increase and when I make a mistake I admit it. I said that wasn’t the right thing to do.”
– President George H.W. Bush in an Oct. 15, 1992 town-hall debate with Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton and Reform Party nominee Ross Perot.
Mitt Romney beat the britches off of President Obama in their first debate, including the devastating sound bite “you’ve been president for four years.”
It was the most-watched debate in 20 years and was the most decisive victory by a challenger in at least that long, but to look at the news today, you might be tempted to think it really didn’t matter.
Another month of essentially flat job growth is being trumpeted as just the comeback the president needed, with reporters, addicted to the top-line unemployment rate, freaking out about the fact that the measure fell below 8 percent.
(Power Play will spare you another lecture on the irrelevancy of this measure in a stagnant economy. The number to watch to know how people are really doing is the larger measure of those unemployed, underemployed and those who have given up work, which held steady at 14.7 percent.)
Certainly the very presence of an avalanche of favorable, if misleading, economic headlines will give the president a boost. And he certainly needs one given his botch on Wednesday.
The most effective spin from Team Obama so far has been that this kind of thing happens all the time – that incumbents always have trouble in their first debates. Why, just look at Ronald Reagan in 1984 and George W. Bush in 2004, they were off their game, came back and won.
While the long-term spin from Obama and his campaign is that Romney is a liar and a phony who only won by taking advantage of an incumbent too tirelessly committed to honest politics and detailed answers, the most urgent matter is to get the establishment press to minimize the importance of the president’s loss.
Some reporters were on that buggy right away, talking about the “debate curse” of the incumbent even before the first Big Bird Twitter meme had begun. The “curse” concept is picking up speed as is the expectation on the right and left that Obama will be back on his game by the time the two men meet up again for a town-hall debate at Hofstra University.
There is lots of truth in that. The president will come back strong and certainly there will be a phalanx of reporters there to say that the old magic is back and that Obama looked potently presidential.
The Romney Obama contest was the most watched first debate since 1980, when an estimated 80 million viewers watched the only contest between President Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan
But don’t be fooled into thinking that what happened on Wednesday was not a massive moment for the race.
Consider the margin of victory. The most frequent comparison for the Obama-Romney debate was that of John Kerry’s win over George W. Bush in the first debate of 2004. Certainly Bush did himself no favors by looking annoyed with his opponent and by muffing several answers.
Since the conventional wisdom holds that this election is a replay of the narrow contest of 2004, with Romney filling the role of doomed Massachusetts politician destined to come just short of victory against an embattled incumbent, the Kerry v. Bush comparison is like catnip on the Obama press plane.
But does it fit?
When CNN polled debate viewers about who won the 2004 match up, 53 percent said Kerry had won, while 37 percent said Bush won, the remaining 10 percent call it a tie – it was a decisive win that helped Kerry erase what had been a steady lead for Bush heading into the home stretch. It was the magic moment for the challenger who seemed headed for a big defeat.
How did Romney score by comparison? CNN’s post debate poll this time found 67 percent believed Romney won compared to 25 percent for Obama, with 8 percent calling it a draw. Based on debate scores alone, the “cursed” Bush of 2004 looks like Daniel Webster compared to Obama.
What about eyeballs? More than 62 million viewers watched Kerry and Bush duke it out eight years ago. For Romney and Obama, it was more than 67 million, plus millions more watching online.
The Romney Obama contest was the most watched first debate since 1980, when an estimated 80 million viewers watched the only contest between President Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. This year’s mile-high smackdown was the most watched of any debate since the second contest of 1992.
And it’s that debate that may prove the most instructive for this year. That was the first-ever town-hall contest, pitting struggling incumbent George H.W. Bush against challengers Bill Clinton and Ross Perot.
That was the debate in which Bush, already tagged as out-of-touch, kept checking his watch as if to say “Are we done here? I have a government to run.” Obama’s grimacing, downcast look said very much the same thing, as did his dismissive tone toward the challenger. Voters didn’t think Bush the elder had earned a second term and wanted to see him work for it. The same is true for Obama.
You will see lots of stories suggesting that today’s jobs report will put Obama back on track. But Bush the elder actually had an improving economy in 1992, measurably better than the one Obama is lugging this time.
While media slant will help Obama make lemons out of lemonade at every moment possible, it isn’t enough to roll back what happened on Wednesday when Mitt Romney all at once became a plausible alternative.
With voters hungry for change in Washington, that’s a perilous thing for Obama.
And Now, A Word From Charles
“With Romney on the rebound, I think Big Bird ought to worry. Thanksgiving is coming up.”
Charles Krauthammer on “Special Report with Bret Baier.”
Chris Stirewalt is digital politics editor for Fox News, and his POWER PLAY column appears Monday-Friday on FoxNews.com. Catch Chris Live online daily at 11:30amET at http:live.foxnews.com.










samiam60
October 6, 2012 at 6:52 am
Good Morning America
samiam60
October 6, 2012 at 7:01 am
Ohio Man Tells Obama His Business Has Been Going ‘Terrible Since You Got Here’
An Ohio market vendor told President Barack Obama on Friday that his business has been going “terrible” since the president’s arrival, according to media reports.
Obama was greeting different vendors at Cleveland’s West Side Market when he came upon the proprietor of Rolston Poultry.
According to the White House pool report, Obama asked the man how business was going.
“Terrible since you got here,” he replied.
Reporters were unable to get close enough to ask the man his political affiliation. According to the report, Obama “didn’t appear amused by the sentiment” and the Cleveland Plain Dealer said he “quickly shifted direction to another stand” after the encounter.
The Plain Dealer noted that the man had appeared annoyed prior to speaking with the president and “grumbled” as reporters commented about his chicken display.
“Take one home with you,” he said, according to the newspaper. “I haven’t sold anything in 40 minutes.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-tells-obama-his-business-has-been-going-terrible-since-you-got-here/
Noonien_Soong
October 6, 2012 at 8:00 am
G ‘ Mornin Sami,
Tis a great day isn’t it. It appears that the race is just turning the last pole on the race course and leading into the finish. It maybe close in the polls, but the ultimate Poll will be the tally after election day.
Once again and many of your posts are par excellence indeed.
What I find comical is the Lefty press especially Lame MSNBC trying to explain a poor performance by the supposed smart guy in the room. The bubble is deflating which was no more than a facade for the delusional. If I played the stock market I would buy extra shares in Pepto Bismol an aspirin or Aleve, cause there will be a lot of upset people across the country.
samiam60
October 6, 2012 at 8:02 am
You put that perfectly my friend. America for the first time saw the Real Obama unmasked before their very eyes and didn’t like what they saw.
Noonien_Soong
October 6, 2012 at 8:10 am
An unresponsive leader is diminished by a lack of action on many levels.
Noonien_Soong
October 6, 2012 at 8:07 am
I find the photo of Maddow and Matthews very disturbingly funny. A couple of sad sacks they are. Could they have missed their bathroom call? LOL
samiam60
October 6, 2012 at 8:09 am
I’m waiting to see Mathews head implode on live TV Election Night
Noonien_Soong
October 6, 2012 at 8:11 am
Popcorn and beer time with fun will be had I am sure.
AFVET
October 6, 2012 at 2:25 pm
The next debate in is New York, town hall style.
This could give Obama a slight advantage as to the degree of filtering the questions get.
I believe that it will be focused on domestic policies.
Romney has got to be relentless on bringing up the debt crisis we face.
If Romney can again defeat him, the next presidential debate is on foreign policy and Romney should be able to secure his position as the best choice for America.
I am looking forward to next week’s VP debate.
It should be fantastic.
Nothing like putting up Paul Ryan against Joe boo boo Biden on national TV.
samiam60
October 7, 2012 at 6:44 am
I am sure the Obama Democrats are going to do everything they can’t to make sure there is not a repeat of the first debate. I am expecting a down low and dirty performance from Barack.
AFVET
October 7, 2012 at 11:05 am
Over on Drudge today there is a report that Obama’s administration is already throwing John Kerry under the bus for his efforts at debate prep.
I wonder who is next in the rotation ?
samiam60
October 7, 2012 at 11:15 am
Perhaps they are going to have Bill Clinton stand in for Obama in the next debate. A pinch hitter of sorts. I wouldn’t put it past them. Then again, they could announce a scheduling conflict if he is to reappear on the View. I crack myself up sometimes…..
AFVET
October 7, 2012 at 11:28 am
Hey !
Clinton has already conducted one of his pressers.
Remember Christmas, when Barry said that Michelle has been waiting on him for a half hour to attend a party ?
Can we all say WRONG PRIORITIES ?
Too damn bad their anniversary was disrupted by the likes of Mitt Romney.
BTW, Roxy has a post up with a picture of a very angry Michelle on stage after the debate.
The look she is shooting Romney would make Medusa blush !
Cheers my friend.
samiam60
October 7, 2012 at 8:21 am
New Post is out for Voting American:
http://votingamerican.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/the-media-made-president/
samiam60
October 7, 2012 at 9:49 am
Pastors to take on IRS in plan to preach politics from the pulpit
More than 1,000 religious leaders across America will take part today in “Pulpit Freedom Sunday,” a plan that has pastors endorsing political candidates from the pulpit in defiance of an Internal Revenue Service rule.
Pastors are hoping their bold move will prompt the IRS to enforce the 1954 tax code, the so-called Johnson Amendment, which prohibits tax-exempt organizations, such as churches, from making political endorsements. The law states it is illegal for churches that receive tax-exempt status from the federal government to intervene in “any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.”
Alliance Defending Freedom, which is holding the summit, said it wants the IRS to press the matter so it can be decided in court. The group believes the law violates the First Amendment by “muzzling” preachers.
“It is a head-on constitutional challenge.”
- Erik Stanley, senior legal counsel
“The purpose is to make sure that the pastor — and not the IRS — decides what is said from the pulpit,” Erik Stanley, senior legal counsel for the group, told FoxNews.com. “It is a head-on constitutional challenge.”
Stanley said pastors attending “Pulpit Freedom Sunday” will “preach sermons that will talk about the candidates running for office” and then “make a specific recommendation.” The sermons will be recorded and sent to the IRS.
“We’re hoping the IRS will respond by doing what they have threatened,” he said. “We have to wait for it to be applied to a particular church or pastor so that we can challenge it in court. We don’t think it’s going to take long for a judge to strike this down as unconstitutional.”
Stanley and others, like San Diego pastor Jim Garlow, say the IRS regularly threatens churches that they will lose their tax-exempt status if they preach politics. But Stanley and Garlow claim the government never acts on the threat because it wants to avoid a court battle.
“It is blatantly unconstitutional,” said Stanley. “They just prefer to put out these vague statements and regulations and enforce it through a system of intimidation … Pastors are afraid to address anything political from the pulpit.”
“The IRS will send out notices from time to time and say you crossed the line,” added Garlow, a senior pastor of Skyline Wesleyan Church in San Diego. “But when it’s time to go to court, they close the case.”
A spokeswoman for the IRS did not comment on the matter and instead referred all inquiries to the government’s online handbook.
Garlow and other pastors say their concerns over the code extend well beyond the law.
“I’m very concerned about the spiritual side of this,” Garlow told FoxNews.com. “There’s a phenomenon occurring in America and that’s a loss of religious liberty.”
“If I would have said 50 years that ‘Tearing up a baby in the womb is a bad thing,’ people would have said ‘Of course it is,’” Garlow said. “But If I said that today, people would say ‘Pastor, you’re being too political.”
Fox News’ Cristina Corbin contributed to this report.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/07/pastors-to-take-on-irs-in-plan-to-preach-politics-from-pulpit/#ixzz28cYXYbIp
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October 7, 2012 at 10:25 am
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samiam60
October 7, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Rasmussen Poll: Romney ahead 49-47 percent in first, full post-debate survey
Mitt Romney has the support of 49 percent of voters nationwide, compared to 47 percent for President Obama, according to a Rasmussen poll based entirely on interviews conducted after the first presidential debate Wednesday.
Two percent of those surveyed prefer some other candidate and 2 percent are undecided, according to the first daily presidential tracking poll for Sunday.
The results are based on nightly interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The numbers show a modest bounce for Romney following his strong performance in the debate with President Obama.
“It remains to be seen whether (the bounce) is a temporary blip or signals a lasting change in the race,” the polling firm said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/07/rasmussen-poll-romney-ahead-4-47-percent-in-first-full-post-debate-survey/#ixzz28e3lrMwV
samiam60
October 8, 2012 at 8:04 am
New Post is out for Voting American:
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samiam60
October 8, 2012 at 4:24 pm
***BREAKING NEWS***
Gallup: Romney pulls even with Obama after biggest debate win in recorded history
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/08/romney-pulls-even-with-obama-in-first-post-debate-gallup-poll/#ixzz28jznwK3t
samiam60
October 8, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Jay Leno On Debate Ratings: “Only Person Who Didn’t Tune In, I Think, Was Obama”
samiam60
October 9, 2012 at 6:30 am
Fact Filled new post is out for Village of the Banned:
http://ireporters.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/can-it-all-be-a-coincidence-the-strange-history-of-barack-obama/
samiam60
October 9, 2012 at 8:58 am
samiam60
October 10, 2012 at 6:46 am
New post is out for Voting American:
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samiam60
October 10, 2012 at 7:39 am
samiam60
October 12, 2012 at 5:16 am
New Post is out for Voting American:
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samiam60
October 12, 2012 at 5:57 am
New Post is up for Twilight’s Last Gleaming:
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